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Everybody knows that, depending upon their age, MG motor cars come from
either Oxford, Abingdon, or Cowley, but for some unclear reason owners like
to know the 'history' of their car, and ignore this fact. They are far more
interested in where the car was registered! This very-very transient period
of the car existence, where it is delivered to a MG Franchise garage, sold,
given a registration number, then delivered to the new owner, seems of great
importance, even though the sales 'county' may not be that in which the
'owner' lived.
For instance, University Motors managed to corner a great number of
registrations with MG in them, the best known are the UMG/UML
series. Many MG cars that were purchased from this Middlesex based company
of the 1930's to the 1950's carry such 'valued' registrations. However, the
purchaser of that car may live many miles away in another county. The
attraction of the initials MG drawing them to the company, even though the
MG part of the registration simply means Middlesex!
However, it is still possible to find out the source of your car's
registration, but you do need to understand that, (a), it is the last two
letters that are relevant, ie, in BPG994 it would be PG, which
indicates the number is from Surrey County Council, prior to 1961, and (b)
the registration may not be your car's original one.
To explain (a) above; when the Motor Car Act of 1903 was passed, cars had to
be registered at their local County Offices. The actual issuing of the
numbers was from a local large town, or borough, and it was the same office
you went to to pay your road tax in those days. Since the Dept. of Vehicle
Licencing Centre, (now an Agency, so called DVLA,) most numbers are in fact
allocated to an area today, and the garages issue them. How did I know the
registration of BPG994 was pre 1961? Many count
ies were running out
of number/letter combinations by the early 1960's, so some had reverted to
using the numbers in front of the letters, ie if Surrey CC ran out, they
could re-use this as 994BPG. Most 'old' cars with the numbers leading
the letters, are after the late 1950's, early 1960's, this even goes for
registrations like 1882ED, which initially looks to be a very old
one, pre 1930's. But, if it WAS an old one, it would have been ED1882.
It was on a 1961 Austin I once owned, and the letters are Warrington/
Liverpool. If your MG has numbers in front of its letters, and it is
pre-1958, that number is not its original one. A post-1949 car with MG
then four numbers is most certainly not wearing its original plate.
Such registrations ran out in most areas by the mid 1930's, except for
EX where Great Yarmouth used it up to 1956, and EY was used on
Anglesey until 1951. Mg on its own was used by Middlesex from 1930 to
1949.
By 1963 the position was getting very serious, and a whole new system had to
be used, where the registration was given a suffix, such as 'A'
registration, and this enabled the whole system to be re-used, and the
suffix letter more or less related to a year. Not all counties and boroughs
used the suffix letter system immediately, some had plenty of ordinary registrations
left.
Now to (b); when the counties and boroughs issued the car registrations,
it was quite easy to buy your new car, but KEEP your old number, putting the
'new' number onto your old car, and this happened an awful lot of times. It
all depended upon the area, and the clerk's attitude, and that your car was
'taxed' in that area on its buff log book. This will put the cat amongst the
pigeons a little I know, but a lot of cars are NOT wearing their original
registration numbers if pre-1972, and its almost impossible to check now
that so many counties have scrapped their records since the DVLC (DVLA now)
. Some have archived them, some sent them to DVLC. In this way people often
kept registration numbers for many cars in the family, an early form of
personalised plates. The inception of DVLC brought in much stricter control,
and it ceased for a while, until today we can 'buy' almost any registration
we want, throwing the idea of tracing a car by its number into utter
confusion. In 1983 the DVLC really got to grips with registering cars, and
carried out a country-wide check on all current in-use cars, to clear out
the scrapped ones that no one had told them about. You can see the result of
this on your registration form, as it will not give owners pre-1983, but
says numbers of owners from then.
Anyway, by 01.08.83 the suffix lettering had run out, so a prefix was
begun.
Not all the area used the earlier suffix letter, some low populated areas
carried on using the old number/letter system up into 1965, so you can get a
1965 MG with NO suffix. These towns/counties began at 'C'. To further
confuse the issue, people began to sell old registrations for cash, from
their old car, and found themselves lumbered with an 'A' suffix, that
actually only lasted from 01.02.63 to 31.12.63 and was not used by everyone.
This single letter policy for cars with non-original plates reduced the
value of the cars. Complaints eventually won a hearing at DVLA when DVLA
themselves began to sell registration numbers.....now we can get an age
related plate, but one that cannot be transferred.
This is where the last two letters that indicate the area does become a
problem, as those used for age related plates are from areas where there
were lots of the old type numbers still left. You can spot these cars still,
even though they have lost the 'A' suffix. They carry 'SV, SU,
SK, VS, and YJ', which must be a pain to those people who really
do have cars registered in Kinross, Kincardine Glasgow; Caithness Wick &
Inverness; Greenock & Luton; Dundee & Brighton. Normally they are from parts
of Scotland, but some were used by the big towns when they ran out of their
own numbers in 1963, hence 'Greenock & Luton' etc. If you have a genuine
1963 car, the use of the 'A' suffix must have been annoying, until
the Age Related Plate era..
And that's not all, it gets worse.....since 1990, you can have ANY
alphabetical combination, as long as it is not rude, from DVLA, and you
want to pay for it. So numbering systems that the Isle of Man had, any plate
with 'MN' or 'MAN', is now almost meaningless, for instance,
as is the Northern Ireland plates system of using an 'I' or a 'Z'
in the letters. The prefix 'J' is still used by Jersey for its
cars, perhaps DVLA have not yet got a foothold in, to sell their numbers as
well. Q plates are for a vehicle of unknown/undated origin.
Back to trying to trace your car. With all the above in mind, the two
letters that relate to your registrations area on your MG should be fairly
accurate, if it is a post 1963 model, as local authorities were loathed to
start swapping suffixed plates about. The pre-suffix era is more of a
problem and you can only write to that town/borough to see if they did keep
any records, BUT do not be surprised if you get no reply, these people are
really busy and cash strapped. The actual numbers of the combinations of the
24 single letter plates, and those using the two letter registrations, runs
to over 500, so I am not about to type out the list. Old 'AA' books are the
answer, they list all the registration offices and letter combinations.
Do be aware of the limitations of the exercise, and that your registration
document often helps, and that DVLC will supply a list of the previous
owners they are aware of....for a fee. Remember as well, a lot of post WW2
MG cars are carrying pre-war registrations that have been purchased, because
they have those initials MG in. Also servicemen who served in places
like RAF Germany, Army of the Rhine, etc., will have 'imported' RHD cars
they purchased overseas, and MANY were given registrations of the year of
import, and NOT year of build.
I see from a copy of the MGOC magazine, Enjoying MG, the registration
YMG356 is for sale, no price mentioned. (BPG994 was chosen at random
from the June issue of 'BULLETIN'.)