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The Classic Marque

Volvo 200, 700 and 900 series used sidelights. The 850s and V70s changed to (halogen) headlights for DRLs. We have a 2005 V70 which uses its halogen headlights. However, you can disable them (on that model) if you have the software which does save on bulbs, which are a pain to access. But headlights bulb access is another thread as is cost of the current LED headlights.

Anam, totally agree, well OTT. Remove all danger from everything and life becomes boring. No wonder there are so many idiots on the road as driving get more and more dumbed down that they concentrate less and less.

Trev

Side lights!

And on a brilliantly sunny day, apart from being superfluous anyway, you couldn't see them.

So what do the h-n-s obsessed idiot legislators and car makers do?

They fit near sunlight to the front of cars.

What does that do?

Flood the eyes of oncoming drivers so they're so dazzled, that they're momentarily blinded. Result? More danger created...

"Didn't Volvo have side lights on all the time in the late 1970's?"

Yes, Jasper Carrot did a routine about them ISTR.


Lucas were marketing 'Dayriding Lamps' for motorcycles in the late '70s.

Cheers Bill,
I intend to.
Didn't Volvo have side lights on all the time in the late 1970's?

I've had drl's since 1986 (Volvos). The current V40 uses its LED headlights so I'd better avoid Tunbridge Wells 🤣🤣🤣

I cycle quite a lot with a decent road bike. In good daylight I wouldn't use lights but if it's a bit gloomier or there are trees darkening a lane, I'd use a flashing LED rear light but mine is a basic Halfords one so not as bright as some. The flashing mode save...

Some of the worst dazzling lights round here are the e scooters you can hire in town.

Guy makes a good point about motorbikes being the original users in daylight and cars having them just dilutes their use by bikers. Much like everything else in these idiotic h&s times overuse defeats the object of them just like high viz vests. The correct name for them in my book is idiot lights because...

No Freedom Fries?
No Ammunition?

You blokes NGMI.

Like all these compensation claims these past few years its chancers after something back that they shouldnt get. Everyone knows there's commission for sales. In fact I dont see why you should even be told about it if you are happy to pay the price being asked.

I dont know about now but a few years back there was a win win situation sometimes for the buyer and the salesman. A guy I know ...

Yes, did enjoy them.
His points are well made. The bit about Top Gear running a petrol car until it runs out of fuel and then criticising it was well observed.
He makes a point about not needing an incentive to buy an EV if there is already an incentive to install a home charger. He believes if you have paid for and installed a charger you'd be a d~~~head if you then buy a diesel.